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Post by cadd on Apr 27, 2005 13:44:10 GMT
Back me up on Discharge being 'fucking pioneers' fullerov, damn your eyes.
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Post by creakyknees on Apr 27, 2005 13:57:23 GMT
Grrrrrrr......wheres that damn John Brainlove gone, skulking under some cover no doubt.
John....shut up shut up shut up why dont you
something better change
school mam
go buddy go
tank
5 minutes
get a (grip)
Goodbye toulouse
princess of the streets
sometimes
hanging around
toiler on the sea
nice n sleazy
london lady
down in the sewer
no more heroes
burning up time
bitching
walk on by
european female
midnight summer dream
goldern brown
waltzinblack
nuclear device
duchess
etc etc etc
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Post by John Brainlove on Apr 27, 2005 14:02:38 GMT
Ooooh Creaky got angry! A bit.
I feel like I've been cheeky to the teacher.
"They all suck!"
*runs away again*
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Post by cadd on Apr 27, 2005 14:32:50 GMT
Just get a grip on yourself
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Post by John Brainlove on Apr 27, 2005 14:37:24 GMT
Heh. That told me.  But I have heard lots of Stranglers, and in all honesty only liked a very few songs. The rest seemed to kinda blend together. |
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Post by JohnDTraynor on Apr 27, 2005 14:51:06 GMT
I would have voted for X-Ray Spex.
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Post by tafkac on Apr 27, 2005 15:04:22 GMT
Well, it's the Pistols for me. Sorry, Tafkac, but I see what you mean but come on. This band were a phenomenon. The sheer force of their presence was, for a very brief time, unmatched. Yes, they got "the look" right. Exactly right. Maclaren understood it was pop, with that whole rock n roll rebel schtick he recycled from the 50s. But Lydon's look and attitude had as much to do with him as Maclaren. It was one of the many sources of tension between two very similar people. To say someone like Lydon was a manufacured product is unfair. He was made by his circumstances (he's a recognisable postwar London Irish type is Mr Lydon). Then there's the lyrics. The best ones are fucking genius. All subsequent hype aside "God Save the Queen" absolutely stands the test of time lyrically, even if the music has become cliche. Yea, they got badly used and fucked over by their manager and were past their best inside 18 months. Welcome to the music business. But if we are judging like with like, then The Sex Pistols were liek, totally the best there has ever been. So there! Yeah I don't disagree, except about anything being "the best there's ever been". I do have a tendency to exaggerate when I'm being iconoclastic! As I say I don't dislike them, or underestimate their unique impact on society at the time. What I mean really is that what is now termed in retrospect "The Sex Pistols" isn't the same thing as the late 70s phenomenon. A lot of people now look back on them and talk about them as "the greatest" because they think they ought to. Any revolutionary potential they had has now, through no fault of their own, been completely subverted by people that think "being punk" is copying the musical style of the late 70s (to give John Lydon his dues, with PiL he didn't rely on this, he continued to innovate.) This has led people to draw an artificial line round a series of bands that as i_deserve... says above, don't really have that much to do with each other. I think its much more appropriate to link the Sex Pistols as a phenomenon with 80s hip-hop like Public Enemy. They were a lot more punk than most of the bands listed here. |
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Post by John Brainlove on Apr 27, 2005 15:06:23 GMT
Is Public Enemy your mysterious one true punk band then?
I like the way you are looking at punk here, it's useful and interesting, but you're totally disassociating it from the snotty trash and glamour that went in hand with the anti-everything-ness of the early punk bands. There was a massive almost a-political-ness about it. They weren't particularly against anything in the sense of arguing about it on Newsnight. They were just... "fuck everything, burn it down, let's jump around." Which is a kind of deadhead approach that seems both admirable and ludicrous.
(edit) : Nihilists?
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Post by creakyknees on Apr 27, 2005 15:12:40 GMT
thats certainly how I felt about it in 1976 and 1977.
Well done John you can come back into the classroom now
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Post by John Brainlove on Apr 27, 2005 15:16:08 GMT
I was feeling pretty... foetal in '76. And pretty newborn in '77.  |
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Post by tafkac on Apr 27, 2005 15:18:07 GMT
Ha ha. No. It was a joke, so HILARIOUS you didn't even notice it. I voted for Some Else. As if there was an actual punk band called Some Else that were the greatest punk band ever. Yeah?
So you see what I did now? I took the words "Some Else" out of the context in which you used them and put them into a new one, creating an incongruous juxtaposition specially designed to induce hilarity in the reader. As far as I know this is a unique idea that nobody has ever done before and I might try to patent this foolproof humour creation technique. Shit I am just so zany. I guess the 21st century might not be ready for me.
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Post by Fullerov on Apr 27, 2005 17:21:07 GMT
For Cadd
Fullerov heartily endorses this event or product........
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Post by prettyvacant on Apr 27, 2005 18:33:22 GMT
rather predictably, it's gotta be the pistols for me  as regarding the stranglers, one of my friends has the raven on holographic vinyl. it's cool. i went through a stranglers phase a couple of years ago, but i've not listened to them for aages. might root it out actually... |
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Post by i_deserve... on Apr 27, 2005 19:34:24 GMT
Nice & Sleazy still fucking rocks.
I suppose The Exploited are the stereotypical punk band ie mohicans, glue sniffing, 2 chords, 1 song, utter stupidity.
Crass are still the best punk band, but I wasn't counting Public Enemy and I may do now. ELVIS WAS A HERO TO MOST...
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Darcy
Lieutenant
Wolverine IS the best x-men character...ok?
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Post by Darcy on Apr 27, 2005 21:43:15 GMT
*squeak* I like the Clash *squeak*
Pah! Nobody's listening!
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